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Old 08-02-2007, 03:27 PM   #1
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Bridge Collapse in Minneapolis

MINNEAPOLIS, Minnesota (CNN) -- Clutching photographs and license plate numbers, dozens of distraught people Thursday waited for word of their loved ones missing after Wednesday's deadly bridge collapse.
Vehicles are scattered along the broken remains of the Interstate 35W bridge.




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The Red Cross has set up a family assistance center in the ballroom at the nearby Holiday Inn-Metrodome, where it's offering counseling as authorities try to recover bodies lodged in the wreckage.
As many as 50 vehicles are trapped in the rubble or in the river after the eight-lane interstate bridge collapsed during Minneapolis' evening rush hour. Twenty to 30 people were missing, Minneapolis police Chief Tim Dolan said.
Four people were confirmed dead, and officials said at least 79 people were injured when the Interstate 35W bridge over the Mississippi River buckled.
President Bush on Thursday pledged federal aid to rebuild the bridge, and the White House announced he will visit the disaster site Saturday. Transportation Secretary Mary Peters said $5 million was being made available immediately to pay for traffic flow adjustments and debris removal.
Jessica Engebretsen, waiting near the bridge for news of her mother, asked people to pray for the missing.
Her sister, Anne, struggled to hold back the tears as she described her mom, Sherry Engebretsen, as "a fighter."
"She'll make it, she's a strong woman, she's gonna come back home," Anne told CNN. Watch family try to stay positive while awaiting word on woman's fate »
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Other relatives of the missing gathered at a hotel to await word from officials.
"I've never wanted to see my brother so much in my life," Kristi Foster told The Associated Press. She hadn't heard from her brother Kirk or his girlfriend since the collapse.
"We know of several people who were pinned or trapped" that have died, Dolan said.
"People that were pinned, people that were partly crushed ... told emergency workers to say ... goodbye," Dolan said. "It was an amazing, amazing scene."
The water below the collapsed bridge is about 7 to 8 feet deep -- just covering the roofs of the dozens of cars that are in the water, Dolan said.
Dolan said he believes there may be 20 vehicles in the water that the workers cannot even see.
The bridge fell 60 feet, about six stories, into the river. See a diagram of the bridge »
Hennepin County Sheriff Richard Stanek said conditions in the Mississippi River were treacherous for divers, as the twisted steel and blocks of pavement were pushed around by river currents. He said the search could go on for five days or longer.
Investigators will try to reassemble the bridge to determine what caused the collapse, said Mark Rosenker, chairman of the National Transportation Safety Board.
Security camera video showed the Interstate 35W bridge's center section collapsing into the river in less than four seconds. The northern end of the span appeared to drop first, and the southern end followed. Witnesses describe the chaotic scene »
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CNN obtained the video from a source who asked to remain unidentified because they were not authorized to distribute it publicly.
Rosenker said video of the collapse is the equivalent of getting a plane's flight data recorder after a crash and would allow investigators to move much faster to find out what caused the disaster.
Gary Babineau was driving his truck across the bridge as it fell.
"I could see the whole bridge as it was going down and as I was falling, and it just gave a rumble real quick, and it all just gave way, and it just fell completely all the way to the ground," Babineau said. See photos of the disaster »
"This particular section of freeway was under repair," Minneapolis fire Chief Jim Clack said. "We don't know yet what caused the collapse."
A school bus filled with more than 50 children who were returning from a summer field trip was among the vehicles on the bridge when it collapsed.
Tony Wagner, the president of a local nonprofit social services group that organized the trip, said eight of the kids, ages 5 to 14, were hospitalized.
Mark Lacroix, who lives on the 20th floor of an apartment building near the bridge, told CNN he saw the last seconds of the collapse.
"I heard this massive rumbling and shaking ... and looked out my window," Lacroix said. "It just fell right into the river."
According to the Minneapolis Riverfront District Web site, the steel arch bridge was opened in 1967. Its longest span stretches 458 feet over the river, and it was constructed with no mid-river piers to facilitate river traffic.
The bridge was undergoing nonstructural re-decking work, U.S. Transportation Department spokesman Brian Turmail said.
A 2001 study conducted by the Minnesota Department of Transportation found "several fatigue problems" in the bridge's approach spans and "poor fatigue details" on the main truss.
The study suggested that the design of bridge's main truss could cause a collapse if one of two support planes were to become cracked, although it allowed that a collapse might not occur in that event. But, the study concluded, "fatigue cracking of the deck truss is not likely" and "replacement of the bridge ... may be deferred."
Two years ago, the U.S. Department of Transportation's National Bridge Inventory database said the bridge was "structurally deficient."



The bridge received a rating of 4 on a scale of 0 to 9. A bridge receives a rating of 4 when there is "advanced section loss, deterioration."
About 140,000 cars a day travel over the bridge, according to the Minnesota Department of Transportation.
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Old 08-02-2007, 03:28 PM   #2
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Re: Bridge Collapse in Minneapolis

Dude I was going to go to the head shops down there yesterday but I did mushrooms instead, I could have died, mushrooms possibly saved my life.
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Old 08-02-2007, 04:00 PM   #3
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Re: Bridge Collapse in Minneapolis

Yeah, I heard about that. Last night before I went to bed it was 7 or 8 dead, and over 60 injured. It was wild, this morning they actually showed the bridge collapsing. I have family in Minneapolis, but I haven't heard anything so I am sure they are OK. If I knew their phone numbers I'd call them, but I am sure my grandma would be calling me freaking out if something happened.

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Old 08-02-2007, 04:10 PM   #4
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Re: Bridge Collapse in Minneapolis

No doubt this bridge was known to be unsafe, like thousands of others across the country, and was not repaired because of the lack of funds and governmental bullshit. Wasting money on the "war on drugs" and other hopeless money pits, saps the abilities to repair shit like this.

The Failing infrastructure of this country is going to kill more people in this country over the next 10 years then terrorism, yet money that could be used to Repair our building, highways, bridges and feed our hungry gets sent overseas as aid to countries that do not appreciate it. We cannot and should not subsidize Foreign wars and countries for those that will spit in our faces.

Generosity and human rights for all should not be at the expense of Americans.
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Old 08-02-2007, 06:25 PM   #5
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Re: Bridge Collapse in Minneapolis

Bridges are fun, this only adds to the excitement.
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Old 08-02-2007, 06:29 PM   #6
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Re: Bridge Collapse in Minneapolis

Originally Posted by AnnonUSA View Post
No doubt this bridge was known to be unsafe, like thousands of others across the country, and was not repaired because of the lack of funds and governmental bullshit. Wasting money on the "war on drugs" and other hopeless money pits, saps the abilities to repair shit like this.

The Failing infrastructure of this country is going to kill more people in this country over the next 10 years then terrorism, yet money that could be used to Repair our building, highways, bridges and feed our hungry gets sent overseas as aid to countries that do not appreciate it. We cannot and should not subsidize Foreign wars and countries for those that will spit in our faces.

Generosity and human rights for all should not be at the expense of Americans.
Well said. This is some thing that could have been prevented and was not so I wonder who writes the check to all the survivors and the family's of the dead?
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Re: Bridge Collapse in Minneapolis

Why does anybody deserve money because their family member died in an accident? Shit happens.
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:36 PM   #8
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Re: Bridge Collapse in Minneapolis

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Why does anybody deserve money because their family member died in an accident? Shit happens.
No shit doesn't just happen there was knowledge that the bridge was unsafe yet nothing was done to repair it. Not only is The city, State and federal government have civil responsibility's but i'm certain there are some criminal charges involved in killing a half a dozen people
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Old 08-03-2007, 12:29 AM   #9
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Re: Bridge Collapse in Minneapolis

It's an interstate. It's federally/state owned and maintained. Noone will be held accountable.

Now, if this was a private company that allowed this to happen, they would be out of business. Can't put the Government out of business.
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Old 08-03-2007, 12:39 AM   #10
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Re: Bridge Collapse in Minneapolis

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No shit doesn't just happen there was knowledge that the bridge was unsafe yet nothing was done to repair it. Not only is The city, State and federal government have civil responsibility's but i'm certain there are some criminal charges involved in killing a half a dozen people
Buyer beware. Shit happens.
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Re: Bridge Collapse in Minneapolis

Well I'm gonna agree with both sides of this one, I am not for everyone being absolved of risk, but our tax dollars are meant to allow the government to provide a safe environment for our daily lives through public services. This includes the maintenance and safety of the federal interstate highway system, including it's bridges and tunnels. More money needs to stay here and not be sent over seas as foreign Aid to countries that do not deserve it.
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Re: Bridge Collapse in Minneapolis

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Buyer beware. Shit happens.
No one bought anything. The government used our money for something they assume we need, we become reliant on the government, and shit like this happens, then people scream and cry that we need to spend more of taxpayers money.

I agree with Annon we spend way too much on bullshit overseas. We also spend way too much domestically as well.
Federal government is there to protect us from anyone intending to disrupt our freedoms and liberties, not to provide us with "free" shit.
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