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Old 02-09-2008, 08:11 AM   #1
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Fixing Global Warming (Can it be done?)

Biofuels may promote, not slow, global warming: report - Feature


Washington - The US rush to plant more corn for biofuel is already being blamed for soaring food prices. Now, two new US studies show that cultivated biofuel crops may actually increase instead of decrease the carbon emissions that ethanol and other biofuels were supposed to reduce. The studies used a worldwide agricultural model to calculate how corn-based ethanol nearly doubles greenhouse emissions over 30 years.

Planting switchgrass and other wild crops on farm land, as advocated by US President George W Bush, would increase emissions by 50 per cent. The studies from the University of Minnesota and the Nature Conservancy published Friday are the latest warning against an all- out US rush into corn ethanol at the expense of food for humans and tilling of uncultivated ground. The authors said their research is the most extensive yet to probe the environmental costs of producing biofuels. Ploughing up rainforests, peatlands, savannas and grasslands to plant corn, sugarcane and other crops for biofuel releases 17 to 240 times more carbon than the annual savings from replacing fossil fuels, the researchers at the University of Minnesota and the Nature conservancy warned. That's because the plants and soil are a giant carbon-storage system. During cultivation, the carbon escapes as carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas blamed for global warming, the studies published in Science magazine this week found. Similar "carbon debt" has already mounted up in Indonesia, where the authors calculated it will take 423 years to pay off the loss of peatlands to create palm oil plantations, the authors calculated. The second largest debt is in the Amazon, where it will take 319 years to recoup the carbon emissions to create diesel-soybean plantations, the study said. The projected debt figure for ambitious corn-biofuel production targets would be 167 years - the time it would take for biofuels to stop contributing to climate change, the authors said. "We don't have proper incentives in place because landowners are rewarded for producing palm oil and other products but not rewarded for carbon management," said one of the authors, Stephen Polasky, of the University of Minnesota. The big push for corn-biofuel came in early 2007 when Bush called for the US to displace 15 per cent of its annual petrol use with alternative fuels by 2017 - a vast increase over the current 3-per- cent level. He got congressional backing for his tax-incentive plan. Energy self-sufficiency drove Bush's interest, but he also benefited from the popular image of biofuel as environmental- friendly. The Washington-based Earth Policy Institute has predicted that ethanol distilleries would need 139 million tons of maize by the current year - almost half of the US harvest - to keep up with US demand, and that's just the beginning. That means not only rising corn prices, but the displacement of corn and other grain-growing to other countries, including the Amazon, as farmers chase rising prices, the study said. "What they react to is an increase in price," the authors wrote. The researchers said it made no sense to convert more land for biofuel production because "all the biofuels we use now cause habitat destruction.""Global agriculture is already producing food for 6 billion people. Producing food-based biofuel, too, will require that still more land be converted to agriculture," the Nature Conservancy's Joe Fargione said in a statement. The authors urged use of more agricultural and forest waste and native grasses and woody biomass from marginal lands. Affordable technology for conversion to ethanol from these sources is however still out of reach. The US is the second-largest producer of ethanol, after Brazil, which gleans more than 40 per cent of its transportation fuel from renewable sources, mostly sugar cane. Corn is a less efficient. Sugar cane produces 5.3 times as much ethanol as does corn: one unit of energy input produces only 1.5 units of ethanol from corn, but 8 units of ethanol from sugar. The studies challenge previous studies that show substituting biofuels for gasoline will reduce greenhouse gases because the feedstock sequesters carbon as it grows.


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Old 02-09-2008, 08:21 AM   #2
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Re: Fixing Global Warming (Can it be done?)

When are these alarmist morons going to understand "global warming" is a cyclical event.
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Old 02-09-2008, 08:39 AM   #3
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Re: Fixing Global Warming (Can it be done?)

Ive stated before, until my property is underwater, Im down with the whole warming thing. I wouldnt mind temperatures another ten degrees warmer on average.
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Old 02-09-2008, 09:08 AM   #4
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Re: Fixing Global Warming (Can it be done?)

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Old 02-09-2008, 09:34 AM   #5
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Re: Fixing Global Warming (Can it be done?)

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When are these alarmist morons going to understand "global warming" is a cyclical event.
WTF was I thinking?
That senario does not fit their political needs.
Silly me.
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Old 02-09-2008, 01:57 PM   #6
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Re: Fixing Global Warming (Can it be done?)

imagine if bush didn't just blow three trillian on the war, taxes would be hella low and they could send all americans a check whenever they want to spend money but instead i get a letter from the government telling me if they piss off the wrong people i am first to be drafted... yet if I can prove i'm an ALIEN or in prison I don't have to go... why the fuck wouldn't they make prisoners and immigrants the first to be drafted?

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Old 02-09-2008, 02:02 PM   #7
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Re: Fixing Global Warming (Can it be done?)

Who gives a shit about global warming?

Everyone says it's a problem that our children will have to deal with, fuck my children! If it's their problem and not mine I don't care.
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Old 02-09-2008, 03:59 PM   #8
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Re: Fixing Global Warming (Can it be done?)

Originally Posted by FilLaB0NGo7 View Post
imagine if bush didn't just blow three trillian on the war, taxes would be hella low and they could send all americans a check whenever they want to spend money but instead i get a letter from the government telling me if they piss off the wrong people i am first to be drafted... yet if I can prove i'm an ALIEN or in prison I don't have to go... why the fuck wouldn't they make prisoners and immigrants the first to be drafted?
Pull you head out of your ass! Bush can not spend what congress will not allow.
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Old 02-09-2008, 06:00 PM   #9
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Re: Fixing Global Warming (Can it be done?)

The elroy quick fix to global warming move to mars and let the roaches have Earth
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Re: Fixing Global Warming (Can it be done?)

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The elroy quick fix to global warming move to mars and let the roaches have Earth
You can take all the *water with you that you want.


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I bet land is real cheap on mars, probably hell finding a contractor though.
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I bet land is real cheap on mars, probably hell finding a contractor though.
Not if the Mexicans find out about it.
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Re: Fixing Global Warming (Can it be done?)

I hope the Martians have better immigration control than we do.
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Old 02-10-2008, 09:51 AM   #14
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