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Old 01-08-2008, 09:16 PM   #1
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KID FALLS, FATHER REFUSES MEDICAL HELP, SHERIFF SENDS SWAT, KID OK...WTF!!!

Reason Magazine - Hit & Run > Sheriff: SWAT Team Necessary Because Man Is a "Self-Proclaimed Constitutionalist"

World Net Daily reports:
Nearly a dozen members of a police SWAT team in western Colorado punched a hole in the front door and invaded a family's home with guns drawn, demanding that an 11-year-old boy who had had an accidental fall accompany them to the hospital, on the order of Garfield County Magistrate Lain Leoniak.
The boy's parents and siblings were thrown to the floor at gunpoint and the parents were handcuffed in the weekend assault, and the boy's father told WND it was all because a paramedic was upset the family preferred to care for their son themselves.
The boy had apparently fallen and bumped his head. His father, who says he was a medic in Vietnam, says he examined the boy, determined he was fine, and saw no need to take him to the hospital. A paramedic called by neighbors forced his way into the home, then called police when the father refused to let the son go to thie hospital.
The police then sent social workers, who according to the Associated Press reported "a huge hematoma and a sluggish pupil." That night, they sent in the SWAT team.
As it turns out, the kid was fine. After the raid, a doctor examined him, and told him to drink some fluids and take a Tylenol.
I'm even more troubled by the explanation for the aggressive tactics:
The sheriff said the decision to use SWAT team force was justified because the father was a "self-proclaimed constitutionalist" and had made threats and "comments" over the years.
However, the sheriff declined to provide a single instance of the father's illegal behavior. "I can't tell you specifically," he said.
"He was refusing to provide medical care," the sheriff said.
However, the sheriff said if his own children were involved in an at-home accident, he would want to be the one to make decisions on their healthcare, as did Shiflett.
"I guess if that was one of my children, I would make that decision," the sheriff said.
But he said Shiflett was "rude and confrontational" when the paramedics arrived and entered his home without his permission.
Shiflett also home schools his kids. By the sheriff's own admission, then, the show of force was more about Shiflet's political beliefs and desire to be left alone than any real child neglect. "Constitutionalists," beware.
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Old 01-08-2008, 09:20 PM   #2
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Re: KID FALLS, FATHER REFUSES MEDICAL HELP, SHERIFF SENDS SWAT, KID OK...WTF!!!

Sad thing is, this is not surprising.
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Old 01-09-2008, 09:31 AM   #3
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Re: KID FALLS, FATHER REFUSES MEDICAL HELP, SHERIFF SENDS SWAT, KID OK...WTF!!!

Gonna start seeing a lot more things like this popping up WE are becoming a police state
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Old 01-09-2008, 10:37 AM   #4
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Re: KID FALLS, FATHER REFUSES MEDICAL HELP, SHERIFF SENDS SWAT, KID OK...WTF!!!

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Old 01-09-2008, 10:38 AM   #5
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Re: KID FALLS, FATHER REFUSES MEDICAL HELP, SHERIFF SENDS SWAT, KID OK...WTF!!!

It's for the children!
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:31 AM   #6
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Re: KID FALLS, FATHER REFUSES MEDICAL HELP, SHERIFF SENDS SWAT, KID OK...WTF!!!

Godbless this sherriff. Fuck rights, when it comes to saftey.

Those who give up liberty for security deserve the security, and liberty will eventually thrive in the future.

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Old 01-09-2008, 03:19 PM   #7
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Re: KID FALLS, FATHER REFUSES MEDICAL HELP, SHERIFF SENDS SWAT, KID OK...WTF!!!

The sheriff said the decision to use SWAT team force was justified because the father was a "self-proclaimed constitutionalist" and had made threats and "comments" over the years.
However, the sheriff declined to provide a single instance of the father's illegal behavior. "I can't tell you specifically," he said.
"He was refusing to provide medical care," the sheriff said.

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Old 01-09-2008, 05:33 PM   #8
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Re: KID FALLS, FATHER REFUSES MEDICAL HELP, SHERIFF SENDS SWAT, KID OK...WTF!!!

I honestly cant believe that the man was irrate when paramedics forced their way into his house. I can't believe idiots like this still believe in private property. How dare he get rude.

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Old 01-12-2008, 12:48 AM   #9
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Re: KID FALLS, FATHER REFUSES MEDICAL HELP, SHERIFF SENDS SWAT, KID OK...WTF!!!

Those fucking Constitutionalists, serves him right. They sure showed him who the bigger man was.
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Old 01-12-2008, 01:11 AM   #10
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Re: KID FALLS, FATHER REFUSES MEDICAL HELP, SHERIFF SENDS SWAT, KID OK...WTF!!!

Using guns to show who's the bigger man . I think the "Constitutionalist" was the bigger man by using nonviolent civil disobedience in the face of the threat of violence and force.
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Re: KID FALLS, FATHER REFUSES MEDICAL HELP, SHERIFF SENDS SWAT, KID OK...WTF!!!

Disobedience must be punished by the long arm of the law at all cost, Lest our children not be safe.
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Old 01-12-2008, 01:14 AM   #12
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Re: KID FALLS, FATHER REFUSES MEDICAL HELP, SHERIFF SENDS SWAT, KID OK...WTF!!!

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Disobedience must be punished by the long arm of the law at all cost, Lest our children not be safe.
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Re: KID FALLS, FATHER REFUSES MEDICAL HELP, SHERIFF SENDS SWAT, KID OK...WTF!!!

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Disobedience must be punished by the long arm of the law at all cost, Lest our children not be safe.
What do you think about the American Revolution?
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Re: KID FALLS, FATHER REFUSES MEDICAL HELP, SHERIFF SENDS SWAT, KID OK...WTF!!!

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What do you think about the American Revolution?
In that Particular case it depends on who is right, and the United States was the one who was right. The man who refused medical care seemed suspect, why not simply cooperate, unless there was a reason not too. Maybe there was no reason other than he was stubborn, but how could we know that?
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Re: KID FALLS, FATHER REFUSES MEDICAL HELP, SHERIFF SENDS SWAT, KID OK...WTF!!!

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In that Particular case it depends on who is right, and the United States was the one who was right.
What was it that was "right" about the American Revolution?
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Old 01-12-2008, 02:29 AM   #16
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Re: KID FALLS, FATHER REFUSES MEDICAL HELP, SHERIFF SENDS SWAT, KID OK...WTF!!!

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Disobedience must be punished by the long arm of the law at all cost, Lest our children not be safe.


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Old 01-12-2008, 07:02 AM   #17
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Re: KID FALLS, FATHER REFUSES MEDICAL HELP, SHERIFF SENDS SWAT, KID OK...WTF!!!

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Disobedience must be punished by the long arm of the law at all cost, Lest our children not be safe.
You fuck little girls, you sir should be raped by the long dick of the law.
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Old 01-12-2008, 11:08 AM   #18
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Re: KID FALLS, FATHER REFUSES MEDICAL HELP, SHERIFF SENDS SWAT, KID OK...WTF!!!

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What was it that was "right" about the American Revolution?
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Those fucking Constitutionalists, serves him right. They sure showed him who the bigger man was.
I think it's kind of ironic that he supports the American Revolution but thinks Constitutionalists are bad. My guess--too stupid to understand.
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Old 01-12-2008, 11:48 AM   #19
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Re: KID FALLS, FATHER REFUSES MEDICAL HELP, SHERIFF SENDS SWAT, KID OK...WTF!!!

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I think it's kind of ironic that he supports the American Revolution but thinks Constitutionalists are bad. My guess--too stupid to understand.
You had to guess about that?
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Old 01-12-2008, 12:08 PM   #20
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Re: KID FALLS, FATHER REFUSES MEDICAL HELP, SHERIFF SENDS SWAT, KID OK...WTF!!!

I support Overall Justice. The constitution is simply too flawed. I think it should be thrown out and new laws should be made, Laws that are even more just, and place more criminals behind bars.
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Old 01-12-2008, 12:10 PM   #21
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Re: KID FALLS, FATHER REFUSES MEDICAL HELP, SHERIFF SENDS SWAT, KID OK...WTF!!!

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I support Overall Justice. The constitution is simply too flawed. I think it should be thrown out and new laws should be made, Laws that are even more just, and place more criminals behind bars.
And you, and your ideas, are what is wrong with America today.
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WorldNetDaily: Mother warns community about 'Nazi' home invasion

The mother of an 11-year-old boy abducted by SWAT team members and taken to a hospital after he was bruised while horsing around is warning members of her community of the "Nazi" tactics she endured, including a statement from the officers that her "rights" were "only in the movies."

The case involves Jon Shiflett, who injured himself while trying to grab the handle of a door on a car his sister was driving. He slipped and fell to the pavement, hitting his head. His parents treated him for the injury and rejected paramedics' demands that they be allowed to take him to a hospital.

Nearly 36 hours later, SWAT team members broke into the family home in western Colorado near New Castle and took Jon to a hospital, where a doctor said the family should keep ice on his bruise, exactly the treatment the family already had been providing.

Tina Shiflett, Jon's mother, has written a letter to the editor to a local newspaper, the Post Independent, "to awaken, alert and appall any who read it and hear the bells ringing."

"A fully armed SWAT team broke into our home, slammed my children to the floor face down with their hands behind their backs and shoved a gun in my daughter's face and handcuffed her…" her letter said.

In a separate letter to WND, she elaborated a little more fully.

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