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Old 02-24-2008, 10:45 PM   #1
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Canada, U.S. agree to use each other's troops in civil emergencies

Canada, U.S. agree to use each other’s troops in civil emergencies

Canada and the U.S. have signed an agreement that paves the way for the militaries from either nation to send troops across each other's borders during an emergency, but some are questioning why the Harper government has kept silent on the deal.

Neither the Canadian government nor the Canadian Forces announced the new agreement, which was signed Feb. 14 in Texas.

The U.S. military's Northern Command, however, publicized the agreement with a statement outlining how its top officer, Gen. Gene Renuart, and Canadian Lt.-Gen. Marc Dumais, head of Canada Command, signed the plan, which allows the military from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation during a civil emergency.

American soldiers arrive on board the HMCS TORONTO as part of a training exercise in carrying out a NATO presence patrol in the Indian Ocean near Somalia. A new agreement between the U.S. and Canadian militaries has been greeted with suspicion by the left wing in Canada and the right wing in the U.S.

American soldiers arrive on board the HMCS TORONTO as part of a training exercise in carrying out a NATO presence patrol in the Indian Ocean near Somalia. A new agreement between the U.S. and Canadian militaries has been greeted with suspicion by the left wing in Canada and the right wing in the U.S.

The new agreement has been greeted with suspicion by the left wing in Canada and the right wing in the U.S.

The left-leaning Council of Canadians, which is campaigning against what it calls the increasing integration of the U.S. and Canadian militaries, is raising concerns about the deal.

"It's kind of a trend when it comes to issues of Canada-U.S. relations and contentious issues like military integration. We see that this government is reluctant to disclose information to Canadians that is readily available on American and Mexican websites," said Stuart Trew, a researcher with the Council of Canadians.

Trew said there is potential for the agreement to militarize civilian responses to emergency incidents. He noted that work is also underway for the two nations to put in place a joint plan to protect common infrastructure such as roadways and oil pipelines.

"Are we going to see (U.S.) troops on our soil for minor potential threats to a pipeline or a road?" he asked.

Trew also noted the U.S. military does not allow its soldiers to operate under foreign command so there are questions about who controls American forces if they are requested for service in Canada. "We don't know the answers because the government doesn't want to even announce the plan," he said.

But Canada Command spokesman Commander David Scanlon said it will be up to civilian authorities in both countries on whether military assistance is requested or even used.

He said the agreement is "benign" and simply sets the stage for military-to-military co-operation if the governments approve.

"But there's no agreement to allow troops to come in," he said. "It facilitates planning and co-ordination between the two militaries. The 'allow' piece is entirely up to the two governments."

If U.S. forces were to come into Canada they would be under tactical control of the Canadian Forces but still under the command of the U.S. military, Scanlon added.

News of the deal, and the allegation it was kept secret in Canada, is already making the rounds on left-wing blogs and Internet sites as an example of the dangers of the growing integration between the two militaries.

On right-wing blogs in the U.S. it is being used as evidence of a plan for a "North American union" where foreign troops, not bound by U.S. laws, could be used by the American federal government to override local authorities.

"Co-operative militaries on Home Soil!" notes one website. "The next time your town has a 'national emergency,' don't be surprised if Canadian soldiers respond. And remember - Canadian military aren't bound by posse comitatus."

Posse comitatus is a U.S. law that prohibits the use of federal troops from conducting law enforcement duties on domestic soil unless approved by Congress.

Scanlon said there was no intent to keep the agreement secret on the Canadian side of the border. He noted it will be reported on in the Canadian Forces newspaper next week and that publication will be put on the Internet.

Scanlon said the actual agreement hasn't been released to the public as that requires approval from both nations. That decision has not yet been taken, he added.
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Old 02-24-2008, 11:42 PM   #2
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Re: Canada, U.S. agree to use each other's troops in civil emergencies

I got a theory.

Canada has a petite military and is going to need help from the US army as security for the 2010 olympics in Vancouver (which is supposed to be covered by Canadian reserves as security), Harper prob kept silent because he didn't want rival politicians or media fuckers finding out that the Canadian army cannot manage it's shit on it's own and needs help from Americana.

Then again that doesn't really qualify as being an emergency.

So maybe it's incase shit goes sour at the olympics, some dicks from Washington can hop the border and help out.
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Old 02-25-2008, 12:46 AM   #3
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Re: Canada, U.S. agree to use each other's troops in civil emergencies

a bunch of greek fags did it, canada cant? what a fail country.
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Old 02-25-2008, 01:14 AM   #4
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Re: Canada, U.S. agree to use each other's troops in civil emergencies

I'm sure we can, I mean wtf it's just a sporting event.

They're probably thinking it's going to get terrorist fucked.
The ragheads haven't made a move on Canada yet, and we're the #1 force occupying Afghanistan atm, so I figure it's only a matter of time before we get fucked over by terrorists. Bombing the olympics would be a perfect terrorist attack, it would piss off the whole world, and it would make Canada look bad seeing as to how it happened on Canadian soil and claimed the lives of folks from all over.

Bombing the olympics IMO would lead to WW3, and those crazy crystal ball gazing motherfuckers that predicted all that stuff which turned out true had predicted that in 2010 something horrific would occur, olympics is in 2010, coincidence? I think not.
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Old 02-25-2008, 01:44 AM   #5
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Re: Canada, U.S. agree to use each other's troops in civil emergencies

Trans Texas corridor combining armies whats next the north American union and consolidation of money we can call it the Northy
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Old 02-25-2008, 01:50 AM   #6
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Re: Canada, U.S. agree to use each other's troops in civil emergencies

^If Canada becomes one with Mexico I'm moving to the UK.
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Re: Canada, U.S. agree to use each other's troops in civil emergencies

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a bunch of greek fags did it, canada cant? what a fail country.
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Old 02-25-2008, 03:38 AM   #8
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Re: Canada, U.S. agree to use each other's troops in civil emergencies

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I'm sure we can, I mean wtf it's just a sporting event.

They're probably thinking it's going to get terrorist fucked.
The ragheads haven't made a move on Canada yet, and we're the #1 force occupying Afghanistan atm, so I figure it's only a matter of time before we get fucked over by terrorists. Bombing the olympics would be a perfect terrorist attack, it would piss off the whole world, and it would make Canada look bad seeing as to how it happened on Canadian soil and claimed the lives of folks from all over.

Bombing the olympics IMO would lead to WW3, and those crazy crystal ball gazing motherfuckers that predicted all that stuff which turned out true had predicted that in 2010 something horrific would occur, olympics is in 2010, coincidence? I think not.
You are out of your fucking mind.
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Re: Canada, U.S. agree to use each other's troops in civil emergencies

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Trans Texas corridor combining armies whats next the north American union and consolidation of money we can call it the Northy
First, integrated infrastructure and military. Next we're gonna need to expand government and create a whole mess with runaway inflation devaluing our currency until it's on par with the Peso. Then we can integrate economies and monetary systems and introduce our new currency, the Amero. Eventually we can integrate all this into the Asian Union, the EU, and the Arab Union. It will be hella awesome when we become under rule of a one world government. We will call it Oceania.
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Re: Canada, U.S. agree to use each other's troops in civil emergencies

I do believe USA, Canada, and Mexico will eventually unite once the there's no more land left in the states, we are going to have to expand, Canada and Mexico is nothing but hella land waiting to be built on.. highly doubtful any of us will be alive when this happens. also South America could very possibly become part of the American team if there's ever a president capable of being somewhat human. an Amero form of currency doesn't sound too unrealistic either, could even be something I live to see but first we must clean up the mess made over the last eight years and gtfo of debt
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Re: Canada, U.S. agree to use each other's troops in civil emergencies

I don't think that is a good idea
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Re: Canada, U.S. agree to use each other's troops in civil emergencies

Originally Posted by elroypornlab View Post
Trans Texas corridor combining armies whats next the north American union and consolidation of money we can call it the Northy
Quite possibly within our lifetime. The most fucked up part is what we (USA and Canada) will have to invest in Mexico to bring their infrastructure up to par with ours.

Originally Posted by Gag View Post
^If Canada becomes one with Mexico I'm moving to the UK.
If they have any brains they will have nothing to do with you.

Originally Posted by FilLaB0NGo7 View Post
I do believe USA, Canada, and Mexico will eventually unite once the there's no more land left in the states, we are going to have to expand, Canada and Mexico is nothing but hella land waiting to be built on.. highly doubtful any of us will be alive when this happens. also South America could very possibly become part of the American team if there's ever a president capable of being somewhat human. an Amero form of currency doesn't sound too unrealistic either, could even be something I live to see but first