[BigRon]

How many people belive or don,t belive Isreals occupation of palistine and forceaby putting people(palestions)in camps and stealing there land 68yrs ago, plus our one sided support of them is one of the main reasons we are hated by the moslem world?

I mean Isreal got nukes and nothing was ever done to them or said to them by the United states.

Every country in the world who has a hostile neigbor wants nukes india and pakistan are good examples.

So is the U.S. and U.S.S.R.

So in away you can,t blame Iran for wanting them.

[taco]

The 1994 Nuclear Proliferation Prevention Act
If ... "the President determines that any country, [after 4/30/94] (A) transfers to a non-nuclear-weapon state a nuclear explosive device, (B) is a non-nuclear weapon state and either -- (i) receives a nuclear explosive device, or (ii) detonates a nuclear explosive device," Then... "the President shall forthwith impose the following sanctions:

(A) The United States Government shall terminate assistance to that country under the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961, except for humanitarian assistance or food of other agricultural commodities.

(B) The United State Government shall terminate--(i) sales to that country under this Act of any defense articles, defense services, or design and construction services, and (ii) licenses for the export to that country of any item on the United States Munitions List.

(C) The United States Government shall terminate all foreign military financing for that country under this Act.

(D) The United States Government shell deny to that country and credit, credit guarantees, or other financial assistance by any department, agency, or instrumentality of the United States Government, except that the sanction of this subparagraph shall not apply--(i) to any transaction subject to the reporting requirements of title V of the National Security Act of 1947 (relating to congressional oversight of intelligence activities), or (ii) to humanitarian assistance.

(E) The United States Government shall oppose, in accordance with section 701 of the International Financial Institutions Act (22 U.S.C. 262d), the extension of any loan or financial or technical assistance to that country by any international financial institution.

(F) The United States Government shall prohibit any United States bank from making any loan or providing any credit to the government of that country, except for loans or credits for the purpose of purchasing food or other agricultural commodities.

(G) The authorities of section 6 of the Export Administration Act of 1979 shall be used to prohibit exports to that country of specific goods and technology (excluding food and other agricultural commodities), except that such prohibition shall not apply to any transaction subject to the reporting requirements of title V of the National Security Act of 1947 (relating to congressional oversight of intelligence activities)."

Waiver: [None]. The President may delay the sanction for 30 days.

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[BigRon]

Well is it worth going to war for?

And who are we to tell the world what they can,t have when we refuse to give it up ourselfs.


And the non nuclear prolifieration treaty does,t answer my qustion.

[taco]

eh? thought id try a quick answer. I believe(just opinion) it has to do with the fact that Iran has unstable and unpredictable governments. Tomorrow they could be overrun by a coup and the weapons could end up in terrorists hands. Although I believe this could also happen in Pakistan I think we slipped up a bit there. Israel would never hand the weapons to terrorists. (this doesnt mean I support Israel by any means). If it keeps the terrorist groups from attaining these weapon it is not only worth going to war, but a neccesity.

[AnnonUSA]

If I may expand on that Idea a little.

The difference in a country like Iran having a nuke device is that it is highly likely that they will use it as a weapon, and not a deterrent. As Taco said, their cuntry (not a misspelling) is an unstable nest of hornets, run by religious zealots that would stop at no lengths to remain in power. They would nuke their own people if the situation arose.

In a megalomaniac society there is always the fear that the weapons would be used to blackmail through fear and intimidation. Look at the blackmail the Iranian Government is doing right now, and they don't even have the weapons yet.

The only way to stop the Iranian's from getting Nuclear weapons is for all the heavy hitter countries to stand tough and beat these bastards down.

Everyone complains the USA is in the middle east only for the oil, well why the fuck is anyone else there? So China, Russia and France just like sand and monkeys in tablecloths? No! The only reason the EU is giving Iran any weight is because they want Iran to commit to selling Oil for Euros only, as they believe it will bolster the EU's economy. Sadly they are ignoring the fact that Iran despises them as much as they despise anyone else, and once they have Nuclear weapons, they will blackmail the piss out of the EU.

The truth is, if the USA would stop browbeating the Russians and Chinese about human rights and started a true dialog, the Iranians would have no choice but to listen to the will of the big three.

The bottom line is, that the US and Russia and China all used their Military Nuclear arsenals to keep each other at bay, sort of in check. The new batch of Nuclear seeking countries are more intent on actually using their weapons as a first strike tool.

[sidious]

my opinions pretty much the same as it was in the "Iran" thread a week or so ago, did you read that Ron?.............normaly i'd be for a country having nuclear power and or nukes if they seemed ok, but even the Iranians dont want it, the govt will be ousted first in some way as whoever does it will have the peoples backing, over 70% of Irans population is under 25 years old, they actully like the West and all it has to offer, Ipods are a huge hit, banned, but they still listen to them, download a lot, i coud honestly see them going a more Saudi route and getting along with the rest of the world..................apart from their leaders at the mo................Peace out..............Sid