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Old 05-07-2005, 09:06 AM   #1
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Kurt Cobain Conspiracy Theories

Kurt cobain.. You think he killed himself, or you think he was murdered?
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Re: Kurt Cobain Conspiracy Theories

http://www.indefenceofkurtcobain.com/unnamed.html
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Old 05-07-2005, 09:07 AM   #3
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Re: Kurt Cobain Conspiracy Theories

It was that bitch!
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Re: Kurt Cobain Conspiracy Theories

I dont really care. He died, and I stop there. Nirvana never really did anything for me. I think Kurt has been built up to be more than he really is.
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Old 05-07-2005, 09:13 AM   #5
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Re: Kurt Cobain Conspiracy Theories

^^ thats why he killed himself. He could never live up to the hype. That and the H.

I have liked Nirvana since i was in about 5th grade, i remember getting nevermind in 6th grade and i had insecticide before that but not sure when i got it. They have easy songs to learn to play on a guitar and they were the voice of the grunge movement. They are one of my fav bands and their unplugged show 11 yrs later still ranks as the best unplugged ever and watching him sing "Where did you Sleep Last Night" is... moving.
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Old 05-07-2005, 09:46 AM   #6
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Re: Kurt Cobain Conspiracy Theories

"anyone who had nearly died after attempted murder and who didn't have his memory back as to what had occurred would be expected to be confused and distressed, on top of this
possibility, Kurt had been physically ill.

This possible attempted murder must be taken into consideration when Kurt's physical and
mental appearances after Rome are brought up. This mustn't be mistaken for suicidal
depression/proof of drug taking, allowances must be made for this possibility.

Melissa, you say that a person who intentionally tried to commit suicide would obviously be
depressed on failing.

I say: would their first thought be to ask for a milkshake? I doubt it. And wouldn't they
remember it if they had tried to end it all?

Kurt didn't know what had happened to him when he came out of the coma, he did know that he
hadn't tried to commit suicide though.

While waiting for them (the police,) to arrive, she attempted to break down the door with a fire
extinguisher. Finally he opened it. She grabbed the gun from him and pointed it at her own head. "I am
going to pull this right now, I cannot see you die! I can't see you die again." (Rossi p 191).

This is supposed to have occurred in March after Rome, whilst the police were on their way,
after Courtney had called them because Kurt was locked in a room, and she told the police he was suicidal. When the police arrived, Kurt told them he was not suicidal, he was just trying to keep away from Courtney. Courtney's bold and brave attempt to take the gun was not mentioned in the police report, why? Surely if she had been breaking the door in with a fire extinguisher there would have been damage to the door that the police would have noticed? There was never any mention of this in the report. Because it was a fabrication, one of Courtney's melodramatic stories, another lie in her defence.

This looks to me like a case of hounding Kurt and not leaving him in peace. Maybe not wanting
him to have the peace he would need to remember the Rome incident?

When he later went out for dinner he didn't look the waiter in the eye, had a companion order for him,
and all but hid under the table at the scene his presence was creating. (Rossi p 192).

So? Are we supposed to believe that because of this he was suicidal/unstable/high? Kurt didn't
like a fuss, this is well known. I can't accept that because this is the case it automatically
becomes translated in a negative sense.

Everything Kurt did has been bent to fit the rubbish that unnamed sources/Courtney want us to
believe, it looks like a systematic character assassination to me. Kurt has been so maligned by
these unnamed sources, and people have believed them for too long.

If Kurt was alive today, he could sue for defamation. And who are these unnamed sources?........
Courtney!

Which brings us back to the start of it all, Kurt wanted to get Courtney out of his life, he knew
she was bad news, he was excluding her from his will, he was going to divorce her, and her
response to this was verbally and physically malicious and violent.

Once Kurt had been murdered she and her unnamed sources set about destroying his character
in her attempt to mislead people and support her bogus claims.

Prior to Courtney meeting Kurt in Rome on March 3rd, Kurt had been described by several
people around him at the time as clean and not drinking alcohol, also that he did not seem
suicidal or talk of suicide before or after Rome. At this point, Kurt was suffering from flu/
laryngitis and nothing more.

Immediately on Courtney joining him, unnamed sources lead us to believe that Kurt became a
rampant heroin user who used Rohypnol and champagne to boot, who was clearly suicidal, and
who was so incapable he "can't even catch a fucking cab by himself," we know this just isn't true." http://www.indefenceofkurtcobain.com/unnamed.html
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the gun was too long for him to do it. I would have had to use his toe to pull the trigger.
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Old 05-08-2005, 04:07 AM   #8
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Re: Kurt Cobain Conspiracy Theories

She killed him.. made money off his songs.. now has nothing to show for it...

As someone who remember what life was before nirvana... i'll tell you it hasnt been the same since... and i firmly believe we are due for another revolution in music. (imo)
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Old 05-08-2005, 08:42 AM   #9
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wheres the 'i dont give a fuck' opitoin?
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Old 05-08-2005, 08:56 AM   #10
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Re: Kurt Cobain Conspiracy Theories

It wasn't put up specifically so you couldn't vote for it mother fucker!!
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Re: Kurt Cobain Conspiracy Theories

well somone should put that shit up there
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Re: Kurt Cobain Conspiracy Theories

Nirvana is one of the greatest groups ever, i think he did kill himself because somewhere i read that he stopped liking music..

Can you imagine what that would be like for him? Music was his life, his job, his passion. And after a while it just got dull for him.. I think he killed himself
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^i just knoiced you have more posts then me
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Re: Kurt Cobain Conspiracy Theories

I have heard or read, I don't remember where, that there were no prints on the shotgun. Kurt certainly couldn't have wiped the gun afterwards. That alone, if true, makes me very suspicious
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Re: Kurt Cobain Conspiracy Theories

I heard that he actually overdosed on weed, which made his head explode.
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Re: Kurt Cobain Conspiracy Theories

^yeah, seem plausable...
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Re: Kurt Cobain Conspiracy Theories

damn steve. you sound obssessed. hey what has more brains than kurt? the wall behind him. HAW woo that's a knee slapper.. yea yea lame.. fuck you. :)
anyway, i dunno man. i would say someone else killed him, but he WAS seriouslly into heroin and might've just been like "fuck it".
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