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Old 05-03-2005, 09:05 PM   #1
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A theory I had a while back.....

I posted this on GC a while back, but it was TOTALLY ignored. I think it was in the wrong place cause the Spirituallity and Philosiphy thread is dead. Here goes!



I think I just had a premenition, or something....

We as a human race are instinctivley trying to destroy ourselves. Its like this. Every dominant species has had a massive extinction by some huge event. The dinosaurs got a meteor, some other species before them could of been wiped out by a flood or ice age. There have been massive extinctions that we have survives too. You dont see any wolly mammoths or sabre-tooth tigers waltzing around lately, have you? We have evolved so much and so well that we can try to defend our saftet against mother nature. Heck, in some situations, we can control the weather by making it rain by creating clouds. So is it possible that we are still in the same direction as all other dominant species were, but in a different way? Do we have an instinct to destroy our own kind?

Think about it, there are many things that point in this direction. Racism, the theory of evolution, natural selection, Survival of the fittest, the social structre of our nations, religion, and so many other things. As far as racism goes, one group of people believes they detect a weakness in another race, and therefore wishes to eliminate this weakness, thereby the people in the race, to strengthen the species. We started out as a few different forms of humans! Homosapiens (us), Cro-Magnum, Neandertals, etc. Natural Selection might of taken care of most of the work of eliminating the other humans, but we sure didnt help. Now we are divided up amongst us Homosapiens into White, Black, Hispanic, Asian, etc. Now whether we are trying to kill a weaker species, or trying to kill a species we fear might one day take us over is not for me to say, that is a problem that can touch many a nerve, one which a solution only lies in the final answer. But we keep dividing from ourselves. Its like we have a half life. And though we will never truly die off, we will one day no longer be the dominant species. The dinosaurs have distant cousins, but there are few, if any, direct decendants. That was a basic survival of the strongest social structure. But now this game is more complicated than ever. So what can we do to come to the same conclusion? Destroy ourselves.

In my theory, we are born with one of two instincts. You are either a protector of the species, or you are a destroyer. Its decided just like you being a boy or girl. This instinct controls all of your thoughts and ideas on everything in society, though like boys and girls, they all grow and evolve differently. As to give an example of the two extremes, Adolf Hitler was a destroyer, and Buddah was a protector. Each of our lives take paths down the road on one team or the other. Some of us might be romatically or friendly linked to the other side, but you are on your path. Your path might skewer to the other side for a while, but you will ultimatley end where you belong, and have the affect on your cause that you were supposed to. Since the aggressor usualy gains power in any fight, however, there is a controlling side of this war. The destroyers are winning right now, as they are supposed to. We are successfully destroying ourselves, whether it be by bombs, guns, mcdonalds or our own minds, we are ticking our half life away. Our species is not going to live happily ever after, Im sorry to say. We are doing what we are supposed to do. And whether fate throws us a curve by destroying us naturally, or having us stick the gun in our own mouth, we will one day not be a dominant species. We have developed this instinct as a saftey measure incase space has spread out too far to deal us a blow, or our planet is too stable to erupt again. Or maybe this is just our end, this is how we are supposed to go. We will have our day. Some of us will survive. But while we are waiting for the apple trees and kitty cats to come back, a different earth will evolve infront of us, and we will no longer be the dominant species on this planet. Like I said, the dinosaurs have distant cousins, but do you see any velocaraptors sprinting around the plains of Nebraska?

Please, PLEASE feel free to leave any feedback or arguments. If you think this is total bullshit, and you want to let me know, great. I respect your opinion, even though you do not respect mine. I am not suicidal, I am not a gothic dark person. I am just a person, with an idea; And that my friends, is how revolutions start.
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Old 05-03-2005, 09:10 PM   #2
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Re: A theory I had a while back.....

i'm sure something will whipe out the earth at some point or another... but as for the rest of it......................................
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Old 05-04-2005, 05:03 AM   #3
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Re: A theory I had a while back.....

That was very interesting, particularly the part about being born with an instinct to protect or destroy. It's quite poignant how much truth there is in that, particularly considering how difficult it is to sway somebody with a tendancy to destroy. The problem is that such an instinct is usually coupled with ignorance and stupidity.
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Old 05-07-2005, 05:30 PM   #4
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Re: A theory I had a while back.....

lets try this again. I think that the 9-11 conspiracy thread really fits into this.
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Old 05-08-2005, 05:10 AM   #5
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Re: A theory I had a while back.....

Even if the 9-11 conspiracy was true, it wouldn't be about destruction it would be about power. Destruction was just a means to an end.
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Old 05-08-2005, 08:42 AM   #6
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Re: A theory I had a while back.....

Originally Posted by Crash
I posted this on GC a while back, but it was TOTALLY ignored.
....I can understand why

Originally Posted by Crash
I think I just had a premenition, or something....

We as a human race are instinctivley trying to destroy ourselves. Its like this. Every dominant species has had a massive extinction by some huge event. The dinosaurs got a meteor, some other species before them could of been wiped out by a flood or ice age. There have been massive extinctions that we have survives too. You dont see any wolly mammoths or sabre-tooth tigers waltzing around lately, have you?
I assume you mean wooly mammoth, and it wasn't a huge event that cause their extinction. Overhunting by indian tribes caused their extinction.

The problem with your argument is you start off with "We as a human race are instinctivley trying to destroy ourselves." Then try to support this claim using NATURAL DISASTERS, that wiped out OTHER SPECIES..with the exception of the wooly mammoth of course. By the way they still haven't proven what killed the sabre tooth tiger, could have been overhunting, could have been a change in climate... you get my point..

Originally Posted by Crash
We have evolved so much and so well that we can try to defend our saftey against mother nature.
.......yeah..that's the idea... we've been doing it for as long as we've been around... That's why we went into caves when it rained.. that's why we used fire to keep warm, all animals do this..it's instinct.

Originally Posted by Crash
So is it possible that we are still in the same direction as all other dominant species were, but in a different way? Do we have an instinct to destroy our own kind?
what other species are you reffering to?!?!? What species of animal caused their own demise?!!?

Originally Posted by Crash
Think about it, there are many things that point in this direction. Racism, the theory of evolution, natural selection, Survival of the fittest, the social structre of our nations, religion, and so many other things.
..........


Originally Posted by Crash
As far as racism goes, one group of people believes they detect a weakness in another race, and therefore wishes to eliminate this weakness, thereby the people in the race, to strengthen the species.
Racism arises from our primate origins, "Outgroup hostility is very strongly developed in our species, like many others. Just like birds, hyenas, chimps, and all other species, we compete for resources" -Jill Neimark

It's not about a weakness, it's about a difference, if you walk into a room and half the room is black, and half is white, you're naturally going to walk to the side filled with people who have the same color skin as you... Your brain loves classifying things... it lives for it... that's why you see shit in clouds.. your brain classifys black men as... well black..it's a very distinct noticable trait..

once it marks them as different your on the road to racism..


Originally Posted by Crash
We started out as a few different forms of humans! Homosapiens (us), Cro-Magnum, Neandertals, etc. Natural Selection might of taken care of most of the work of eliminating the other humans, but we sure didnt help. Now we are divided up amongst us Homosapiens into White, Black, Hispanic, Asian, etc. Now whether we are trying to kill a weaker species, or trying to kill a species we fear might one day take us over is not for me to say, that is a problem that can touch many a nerve, one which a solution only lies in the final answer. But we keep dividing from ourselves.
considering the amount of different races there are in the U.S. right now, I wouldn't say we "keep dividing from ourselves"

..yeah your brain naturally wants to classify things, thus deviding them.... but... 60 years ago a black person couldn't even drink out of the same water fountain as a white man.

Originally Posted by Crash
Its like we have a half life. And though we will never truly die off, we will one day no longer be the dominant species.
I assume what your trying to say is "our genes will never die off" meaning mammals in general? Then when you say"we" again in that sentence you're talking about humans not being the dominant species?

.....I can't even figure this fucking sentence out..you need to take some english classes and stop relying so heavily on pronouns!!!!

Originally Posted by Crash
The dinosaurs have distant cousins, but there are few, if any, direct decendants. That was a basic survival of the strongest social structure. But now this game is more complicated than ever. So what can we do to come to the same conclusion? Destroy ourselves.
Do you notice how very few of your sentences relate to eachother? ..I do...

Originally Posted by Crash
In my theory, we are born with one of two instincts. You are either a protector of the species, or you are a destroyer. Its decided just like you being a boy or girl. This instinct controls all of your thoughts and ideas on everything in society, though like boys and girls, they all grow and evolve differently. As to give an example of the two extremes, Adolf Hitler was a destroyer, and Buddah was a protector.
I learned in physics last year, that the human race will no longer have enough farmland to create enough food to sustain itself by 2077. So, looking at the big picture isn't a little destruction a good thing?

Makes you look at the tsunami a little different...

Originally Posted by Crash
Each of our lives take paths down the road on one team or the other. Some of us might be romatically or friendly linked to the other side, but you are on your path. Your path might skewer to the other side for a while, but you will ultimatley end where you belong, and have the affect on your cause that you were supposed to. Since the aggressor usualy gains power in any fight, however, there is a controlling side of this war. The destroyers are winning right now, as they are supposed to. We are successfully destroying ourselves, whether it be by bombs, guns, mcdonalds or our own minds, we are ticking our half life away.
OR
we're thinning our numbers, so we don't run out of natural resources.

Originally Posted by Crash
Our species is not going to live happily ever after, Im sorry to say.
well now that I heard it from you I know it's true...

Originally Posted by Crash
We are doing what we are supposed to do. And whether fate throws us a curve by destroying us naturally, or having us stick the gun in our own mouth, we will one day not be a dominant species. We have developed this instinct as a saftey measure incase space has spread out too far to deal us a blow, or our planet is too stable to erupt again. Or maybe this is just our end, this is how we are supposed to go. We will have our day.
Seriously dude this is just incoherent rambling...


Originally Posted by Crash
Some of us will survive.
Glad you forsaw that...


didn't think I was gonna get ANY sleep tonight..

Originally Posted by Crash
But while we are waiting for the apple trees and kitty cats to come back, a different earth will evolve infront of us, and we will no longer be the dominant species on this planet. Like I said, the dinosaurs have distant cousins, but do you see any velocaraptors sprinting around the plains of Nebraska?
I've never been to nebraska...you should ask that gay asian dude, I think he's from around there!


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If you think this is total bullshit, and you want to let me know, great. I respect your opinion,
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Old 05-08-2005, 08:46 AM   #7
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Re: A theory I had a while back.....

In my theory, we are born with one of two instincts. You are either a protector of the species, or you are a destroyer. Its decided just like you being a boy or girl.
i think that is bullshit but the rest is pretty intresting
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Old 05-08-2005, 11:50 AM   #8
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Re: A theory I had a while back.....

I should of put that disclaimer down. I was VERY stoned the night I wrote this, so Im not suprised theres a little bit of rambling.
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Re: A theory I had a while back.....

i don't know man. i guess i agree to a point. i think a more accurate description is that some people are born with the need for power. the more powerful people get, they try to take things away from other people and that puts everyone on a destructive course.

money. power, more more more. thats what it's about right there.
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Re: A theory I had a while back.....

i didn't bother to read anything... didn't i reply to this on gc? i don't remember... i'll read this later maybe, and then give my opinion...
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